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Post by celticcraftress on Jun 4, 2006 23:20:09 GMT
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Post by celticcraftress on Jun 5, 2006 0:57:14 GMT
Ive built a temporary nursery, and took a better picture. Hope this helps!
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Post by luvfishies on Jun 5, 2006 1:12:33 GMT
They're fine, and what a great way to get a tonne of brig eggs! They shouldn't be too wet/damp or they will rot. Here's a picture of one of my "hatcheries". Easy and cheap to make. More Hatchery ideas
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Post by celticcraftress on Jun 5, 2006 2:22:52 GMT
Yay!!!!! Thanks again for saving the day! ;D
I was really worried because I didn't expect the eggs to just pop off like that! And they felt harder then I expected them to be...but hey, we're all new at something at some point!
Is my little cup nursery ok for now? I will try to build one simular to yours. So just give them a good misting twice a day and keep it nice a sealed up to keep it moist inside? How exiting! My first snail eggs!
The folks at my pet shop really don't know snails, and they put the snails with the goldfish, soo....I knew I had to take them because even when they DID hatch they would just become goldfish food. I didn't even have to pay for them, what a great free-B! I can't wait to see if they hatch!
I bet they layed eggs because I have been secretly spoiling them with shrimp pellets, hehe, bet they loved me for it so much they left me this lovely little gift! Now im cureious if I will find more next week, will let you know if I do! ;D
Oh, by the way, I got the crushed coral and a coral finger and washed them real good and have them sitting in my aquarium as we speak. Will let you know how my green and purple babies do. ;D
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Post by luvfishies on Jun 5, 2006 3:24:07 GMT
Your little hatchery is fine for now, just be sure that no water collects under the eggs, as they can and will drown/rot. If you keep it completely covered, be sure and raise the lid daily to let excess moisture out, as well.
Congrats on the coral, as well! You can't OD on that stuff, and be sure and stick it INTO the filter if at all possible, as it works much better there than just "in the tank".
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Post by celticcraftress on Jun 5, 2006 3:53:30 GMT
Ah thanks for that warning! I checked them as soon as you mentioned and some water was sitting under them. I gently got it off and they're sitting pretty. ;D
I am going to try to figure out a way to get the coral into the filter, it's more like a sponge filter then a regular HOB, but it's worked beautifuly to my surprise for months. In the mean time ive at least got the cup sitting in there. Stupid me, forgot to buy a filter bag at work today. Forgot my check too, but remembered the coral! haha, im a nut case!
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Post by celticcraftress on Jun 5, 2006 3:57:11 GMT
You know, maybe im just being paranoid again, but your eggs look so much healthier then mine, more pronounced, soft-looking, etc. Is it normal for egg clutches to vary?
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Post by luvfishies on Jun 5, 2006 4:23:08 GMT
The clutches in those pictures were at least a week old, so much more mature than yours. You will notice changes in yours as it matures.
You may even have an unfertilised clutch, as "new moms" can sometimes do that. Remember, it does take a male and female "doing the nasty" to get fertilised eggs. Even if she's been fertilised, she may lay duds the first few times. BUT she can store sperm, so if she's ever been mated by a male that's mature enough, eventually a clutch can/will be fertile.
Keep checking the goldie tank at work for mating activity, and clutches.
Oh, and if you've got a sponge-type filter, you can stick the coral finger in the tube where the airline goes in. You can also get wee itty bitty HOBs now, that are perfect for sticking nothing but coral in a filter bag into.
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Post by celticcraftress on Jun 5, 2006 4:58:37 GMT
Ah, du! lol. I will watch them for changes then, how exiting! ;D I guess I was figuring they were a week old, but for all I know they were laid the night before. I work there once a week, and certainly didn't see them last Sunday. I supose someone would have removed them if they were there more then a few days...the plot thickens! Might give them a ring to ask them to let me know if more eggs appear so I can wisk them away. Hmmm...well, pretty much all the snails in the aquarium were good sized, most all of them are, and I am sure by the MASS amount of them there's got to be loads of males and females in there doing the dirty! lol. My boss practicaly started his own snail farm to be honest with you, there's loads of them. So, obviously no way to know who's the mommy and daddy, but highly possible there could be some good clutches to be found. ;D Smart!!! Im going to try that idea with the coral finger piece! I'll keep an eye out for a wee HOB, haven't seen one at my shop yet, seen a few online, might have to think about getting one. Guess I never thought about it sense the aquarium was doing quite well on it's own. Something good to do before I move on to bonnie Scotland. That's not for another month though, so im sure i'll be able to work something out for any baby snails I get before I move. I hope my little green and purple babies are a male and female, I love this! Me wants more eggies in the future! ;D
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Post by luvfishies on Jun 5, 2006 5:14:07 GMT
I wouldn't bother with getting a HOB before moving, as nothing electric will work "over there". We use 110v. The UK is on 220, and believe it or not, there's no standardised plugs! Often electrics are bought without a plug, and you have to buy one separately, that will fit the outlets in the house.
If your boss has that many snailies for sale, be sure and get him to feed them! It's much easier to sell live healthy snails than to absorb a loss of the lot.
Whereabouts are you, and what store? Some people over at applesnail might be interested in getting some, as most lfs don't carry the "other" colours (just golds and "wilds"/blacks).
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Post by SnailTrail on Jun 5, 2006 11:12:48 GMT
Every electrical item bought in the UK has a fitted 3 pin plug (you guys use two pin plugs).....I remember years ago you had to fit your own plugs lol.
Luvs is right about the voltage difference so it's not worth buying anything electrical unless you buy a voltage and plug converter like those travel ones but I would be wary about running a tank using one of those converters.
You'll find everything is more expensive here too......I believe you can get a 10g tank in the US for around $10 or so.....here it would cost £40 or more.
Do you need some sort of permit in order to bring snails into the uk?
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Post by celticcraftress on Jun 5, 2006 15:45:48 GMT
Oops! haha, no no the HOB is for my little tank that is staying here. My boyfriend is buying me a new aquarium when I move across. ;D You know that reminds me, im annoyed that HOBS don't appear to exist in the UK, I adore them! Oh well, will make due. I mentioned to him about shrimp pellets, he's a real nice guy but ive been afraid to approach him for a "snail lecture" so I told the other girls if there's a snail problem to try putting some crushed coral into the sump of the goldfish system. At worst if he isn't feeding them I sure am! I spoil them with LOADS of shirmp pellets (pretty much all I can feed them) and that must explain the eggies. I say loads because the greedy goldfish eat most of them before they hit the bottom, THEN they eat them off the bottom! grrrr Ah good idea!! Well, USA obviously, Missouri, Kansas City. The name of the shop is Miles of Exotics. I work there on Sundays, so if you want to chat with me my name is Evyn so just ask and im probably just doing something (gotta keep busy at that shop) and im sure I can chat with ya and show you what he's got. Actually, here's another idea! They are only $1.99, if anyone wants me to pick a few of them of a certain colour, I can buy them and mail them to you + shipping. I get a 30% discount, so they won't cost me much at all. A lot of them aren't super pretty though because they are covered in algae, or have speckles of white, or even damaged shells on some, though overall they look real healthy and active. Might be good if you want new breeding stock, coulden't tell you where he got them but im taking a guess they were pond raised or something going by the algae. He has: -purple -light blue -yellow -white (saw some very pretty white ones with little algae) -brown (only saw one brown one, be might be "olive" or jade) -olive (my baby olive is the only one I could find that looked REALLY green vs. brown) There's a handful of purple's though if that's a sought-after colour! Should I post this on applesnail? Yep, classic 10gal for $10. Hmm...that doesen't look right at £40, ive found them for less over there I think (can't remember where). Point taken though, I do know the hobby is more expensive over there, but im a good bargan huntress. And it's totaly worth it being able to live with my boyfriend in beautiful Scotland for the rest of my life. ;D I shoulden't, DEFRA says no under mollusks, and I am still under the average "pet import" number with only three critters. I believe it's 5 tropical fish I could bring max as a pet import for example, excempting me from needing a license. Ive heard some crazy stories about nastie people at customs though, BUT I have it in writing (and even had her send me a letter signed by her) that I don't need to need to show my betta at customs at all. I can even carry her on the plane, walk out, nothing said or done. So...with two tiny baby snails in my care, im thinking of just ploping them in with her, giving the bag a safe compartment in my backpack, and just taking them along for the adventure (being sure to open the bag while waiting for my changing flight, and without anyone seeing). Im going to be stelthful even though I know it's legal, just in case! ;D
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Post by luvfishies on Jun 5, 2006 22:02:02 GMT
Evyn, I think it would be a great idea to post this store over at applesnail. People are wanting different colours all the time, and surely there are some members there that would be "local" to you.
I do think there are HOB filters in the UK, they are usually called power filters though?
SnailTrail, sorry about the mis-info about the plugs. LOL it's been a while since I've been back to visit the Grandparents, cousins, uncles and aunts, and that's one of the things that stuck in my mind. Here in Canada we have 3-prongers as well.
Another thing that really freaked me out when I was in B'ham was the coin-op electricity box. Very very strange, that was~!
Also, to ship snails you don't need water. Just wrap them in wet paper towels and stuff/pad them tightly into a tupperware container so they don't "bounce" around. Either that or ONE snail per small fishbag with about 2 TBSP of water, and lots and lots of air.
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Post by celticcraftress on Jun 5, 2006 22:16:55 GMT
Will do then All I have been able to find are sponge filters, canister filters, and internal filters that go inside the aquarium. I did find a simular filter, but it was more like a refugum and it was HUGE...and expensive. Ah really? That sounds even better! I'll find myself a little tupperware container for them, and this way I don't need to worry about them getting knocked around. ;D
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Post by luvfishies on Jun 6, 2006 0:57:04 GMT
snailtrail on here has a power filter. She describes it as one that the water gets sucked up a tube, filtered over sponges, then waterfalls back into the tank. You might want to ask her what kind she has and where she got it from?
I use margarine tubs to ship snails, with Aquaclear foam cut to fit inside, 2 pieces, with the snails "sandwiched" in between the foams, and the lid taped down nice and tight. Works well, even for 48 hour shipping, and I've gotten snails alive and well with the "foam sandwich" method, even after 5 days in the mail!
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